Alabaman
09-16 04:58 PM
Yes.
We have thousands here. We take just 1000 people and if everyone contributes 100 dollars - its 100,000 dollars. Just an estimate for lawyer fees incase we get that far
We are from BHARAT. Its a loaded statement. WE dont lose.
TOGETHER WE STAND, TOGETHER WE STAND my brothers and sisters.
So why doesn't Bharat give you a GC? Funny. BTW everyone is not from Bharat. :D
We have thousands here. We take just 1000 people and if everyone contributes 100 dollars - its 100,000 dollars. Just an estimate for lawyer fees incase we get that far
We are from BHARAT. Its a loaded statement. WE dont lose.
TOGETHER WE STAND, TOGETHER WE STAND my brothers and sisters.
So why doesn't Bharat give you a GC? Funny. BTW everyone is not from Bharat. :D
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centaur
03-09 09:12 PM
Well said
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
snhn
09-16 09:47 PM
Does everyone receive FP notices. Couple of my co workers did not recieve them. I just applied. I have told that my name check is cleared
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another_wei
08-26 03:46 PM
As it starts with Axxx, I think it should be Alien Number.
Very strange i mail my I-485 on July 19th and got my receipts and check cashed. But I see other peoples who mailed July 2nd and they are still waiting for receipt? Why is that? Does not make sense.
Very strange i mail my I-485 on July 19th and got my receipts and check cashed. But I see other peoples who mailed July 2nd and they are still waiting for receipt? Why is that? Does not make sense.
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bluemask
05-23 09:52 AM
Sent 2+10 emails.
Will call later and ask friends do the same thing.
Thanks IV!
Will call later and ask friends do the same thing.
Thanks IV!
sankap
07-10 01:07 PM
Thanks for quoting that. Now, how do you define what's legitimate? Meaning, why can't you show that your self-employment is "legitimate?"
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/AC21Intrm122705.pdf
what does this mean?
confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate
legitimate means bonafide. Isn't it?
For both, new employer and new job offer.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/AC21Intrm122705.pdf
what does this mean?
confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate
legitimate means bonafide. Isn't it?
For both, new employer and new job offer.
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stucklabor
06-26 03:20 PM
I am sorry stucklabour but a traffic/speeding violation is a misdemeanour and not breaking the law. Being in this country illegally is actually breaking the law. Now i am not going to get suckered into a whole legals v/s illegals debate, but at some level i do feel that undocumented workers HAVE broken the law. Besides the argument that "everyone does it" really doesnt cut it. 10 wrongs do not make 1 right. If you look at the punishment for the 2 things a speeding violation leads to a simple fine, a violation of Visa leads to deportation.
Umm, Eb3_Nepa, speeding is breaking the law. A speed limit is the law. In pointing out that a speeder is fined but an illegal immigrant is deported, you are pointing out the difference in punishment for breaking the law. The punishment is man's decree, nothing more, nothing less. One could argue that a speeder can cause more harm to society (by driving way faster than conditions permit, for instance) than an illegal immigrant. Yes, an illegal immigrant is breaking the law, but who knows what we would do if we had a bad life and made $1 a day and someone promises a better paying job in some other country. So let us not point fingers here, but focus instead on the value we add.
You are getting into this discussion late and I have edited/deleted posts, but from my comments you have an idea of what was said. It wasn't productive.
Santosh_gc, I appreciate your sentiment. It is possible that my argument had a logical fallacy but let us focus on better things and move on.
Umm, Eb3_Nepa, speeding is breaking the law. A speed limit is the law. In pointing out that a speeder is fined but an illegal immigrant is deported, you are pointing out the difference in punishment for breaking the law. The punishment is man's decree, nothing more, nothing less. One could argue that a speeder can cause more harm to society (by driving way faster than conditions permit, for instance) than an illegal immigrant. Yes, an illegal immigrant is breaking the law, but who knows what we would do if we had a bad life and made $1 a day and someone promises a better paying job in some other country. So let us not point fingers here, but focus instead on the value we add.
You are getting into this discussion late and I have edited/deleted posts, but from my comments you have an idea of what was said. It wasn't productive.
Santosh_gc, I appreciate your sentiment. It is possible that my argument had a logical fallacy but let us focus on better things and move on.
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chanduv23
03-12 07:02 AM
Most people have a lack of understanding of the situation. Things may not get better, things may get worse. EB3 is further retrogressing, EB2 will not move further, another market slump expected, more layoffs getting announced (though may not be in high skilled sector, layoffs does matter in decision making), companies running out of funds, body shoppers reducing salaries and increasing their cuts .......
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
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logiclife
07-07 02:23 PM
Yes, registering with the Police department of the city is a must. All they need (at least in San Jose) is your name, driver's license number etc. They will register it.
You dont need permit for walking on sidewalks. You need permit only if you plan to stop traffic and block streets. None of us want to do that.
Check with your city's police department and find out how to register for march on sidewalks without stopping traffic. I guess that's a lot easier than getting permits to stop traffic etc.
Now, as to rallies other than San Jose rally, if you plan to lead the rally and get the event registered, then please email me at jay@Immigrationvoice.org and I will help you get members. I have list of all members and their states and once you finalize the event, I will email the entire list and point them to you. I will also provide you with material, guidance and Immigration voice's message and talking points should you be approached by a reporter. In fact, its a good idea to tell local papers in your area before hand so that the know to cover the event.
Members in NYC, Washington DC, Chicago, LA etc should have absolutely no problems in finding enough members planning to walk on the street for an hour. I will help you find enough participants in your city, if you send me an email and if you are ready to lead these events.
You dont need permit for walking on sidewalks. You need permit only if you plan to stop traffic and block streets. None of us want to do that.
Check with your city's police department and find out how to register for march on sidewalks without stopping traffic. I guess that's a lot easier than getting permits to stop traffic etc.
Now, as to rallies other than San Jose rally, if you plan to lead the rally and get the event registered, then please email me at jay@Immigrationvoice.org and I will help you get members. I have list of all members and their states and once you finalize the event, I will email the entire list and point them to you. I will also provide you with material, guidance and Immigration voice's message and talking points should you be approached by a reporter. In fact, its a good idea to tell local papers in your area before hand so that the know to cover the event.
Members in NYC, Washington DC, Chicago, LA etc should have absolutely no problems in finding enough members planning to walk on the street for an hour. I will help you find enough participants in your city, if you send me an email and if you are ready to lead these events.
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ram_nara303
11-17 03:44 PM
Done for VA
Senator Mark R. Warner (D-VA)
Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)
Representative Frank R. Wolf (R-VA 10th)
Senator Mark R. Warner (D-VA)
Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)
Representative Frank R. Wolf (R-VA 10th)
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immigrationvoice1
03-26 10:04 AM
Wanted to know what the members here think of the probability of receiving RFE from USCIS to find out whether the applicant is still in a "same or similar" job when the time comes to adjudicate cases for for EB3 India.
I ask this because in a poll conducted in a separate thread, it seems the number of people waiting for their GCs are more with PDs before Dec 2004 than after that date.
When the dates become current again for these people, do you think USCIS will be sending RFEs to get the employment information for every single of them ? Is there is a percentage from the pending applications that they pick for RFE, assuming all applicants who changed employers DID NOT notify USCIS when they changed jobs OR is it completely up to the whims of the adjudicating officer to send an RFE ?
There are several people I know who changed employers with EAD, never notified USCIS and got their GCs without any RFE. Trying to understand whether USCIS will think twice before sending RFEs for everyone as the number of applicants waiting with PDs of 2004 and earlier are huge now than ever before. Won't it be too overwhelming for them to issue RFEs to all and manage their responses?
I ask this because in a poll conducted in a separate thread, it seems the number of people waiting for their GCs are more with PDs before Dec 2004 than after that date.
When the dates become current again for these people, do you think USCIS will be sending RFEs to get the employment information for every single of them ? Is there is a percentage from the pending applications that they pick for RFE, assuming all applicants who changed employers DID NOT notify USCIS when they changed jobs OR is it completely up to the whims of the adjudicating officer to send an RFE ?
There are several people I know who changed employers with EAD, never notified USCIS and got their GCs without any RFE. Trying to understand whether USCIS will think twice before sending RFEs for everyone as the number of applicants waiting with PDs of 2004 and earlier are huge now than ever before. Won't it be too overwhelming for them to issue RFEs to all and manage their responses?
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spring2000
06-20 11:35 AM
I read the news on bloomberg business channel that house is going to discuss about senate immigration bill
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rameshms
05-23 08:55 AM
I have sent emails as per the clear (thanks) instructions. I have a small suggestion (correction). Instead of ending with "Thanks, .... Your Name", I suggest using "Thank You, ..... Your Name". IMHO, "Thanks" is used among friends and family and "Thank You" would be used for being more formal.
I know it is a minor detail, but I felt liking speaking what I felt.
Thank You
I know it is a minor detail, but I felt liking speaking what I felt.
Thank You
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at0474
03-26 11:39 AM
2007 June visa bulletin moved EB3 India to June 2003. The very next month, they made everything current. Things went out of control after that. For some reason, in my dreamland, I am fantacizing the first move to repeat again. May not make everything current, but atleast, move EB3 to june 2003.
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unitednations
03-08 08:22 PM
If many EB3-I folks are getting GCs then why is EB3-I PD stuck in 2001? Shouldn't it move?
One other note; those eb3 to eb2 conversoins original priority dates were 2003 in eb3.
One other note; those eb3 to eb2 conversoins original priority dates were 2003 in eb3.
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english_august
07-09 04:58 PM
There is a 99% chance of a TV crew covering this event. I just spoke with them and they are just working out the logistics. They will reach the USCIS office at around 12 PM and said that it would be great if some of us are available around that time to talk to them.
Any D.C. area people interested in going there, please send me a private message with your name and phone number so that we can talk and work out the logistics.
Any D.C. area people interested in going there, please send me a private message with your name and phone number so that we can talk and work out the logistics.
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madhuvj
09-14 04:11 PM
Guys,
I have been following this thread and you know what, This is THE thread that is going to change the future and lot of things to come.
Personal Information :
I understand some of your concerns of giving personal information, but just think about it, all you are giving is your Email Address and Phone number. You are not giving away Credit card, SSN and Bank Account numbers. Just think about it, Dont you guys already get junk emails and marketing calls. Are you guys not getting mails about Credit Card offers, Macys and Others. So Dont think too much guys. You always have the option of changing the phone number if things get worse. But I dont think that is gonna happen since most of our information are already out there. We will try to work out something with the Admins here to see if we can get a secured page. If not, let one of us take a responsibility of collecting personal information and host a webpage, I know, atleast , one of us can do it.
Lawyer Fees
Guys, Lawyer fees is not an issue, if we get more people in to this. 100 $ ain't too much when you think , you are spending 1000 $ on EAD and AP year after year. Let us shake the USCIS by taking some courageous step. Again, we are not here crossing borders, they invited us here. Every one of us deserve justice and respect. They cant treat us like slaves. They gotto keep up to their promises or else we will demand it.
Letters to Every one
Our focus should be to get maximum support. Let us send the Letter that we agreed upon, first to, the people from whom,we think, we would get maximum support. Let us keep them aware of what we are trying to achieve. Yes, Iam talking about the list of forture 500 Companies and IT giants, who were trying to push for an increase in H1B quota. Companies that are demading for a better Immigarion system and faster green cards. I know, we already have a thread that has a link to the letter that is signed by all big companies in favor of increasing High-Skilled immigrants. Let us make them hear. Let us, all 70 K folks here, send individual letters to every body who,we think, will support us and then to send it to those, who already knows everything about their inefficiencies,but still falling deaf, on our earlier outcry. Let us prove that, we dont just sit out there crying. Let us show them who we really are. Stand for our Self-Respect guys.
Lawyers
First we will send them the letter in the next 2-3 weeks. I agree, Iam not saying here, that we are gonna see the result just easy. But atleast, let us see, if our efforts are getting heard across the country. If not, Let us get to our next step. Find a Lawyer, who has complete knowledge about the immigration system. I have an idea here, let us approach some one like, Zoe Lofren. I dont think, she is fighting so much for our case, without enough support from the lawyers, who already know much about what is going on here with CIS. Let us see, if she has a personal say on our "Big Step" here.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST
Guys, If some one wants to discourage us or post anything other than words of caution or advise. Please refrain from doing that. We want people to stay positive and throw more positive energy to this thread.
I have been following this thread and you know what, This is THE thread that is going to change the future and lot of things to come.
Personal Information :
I understand some of your concerns of giving personal information, but just think about it, all you are giving is your Email Address and Phone number. You are not giving away Credit card, SSN and Bank Account numbers. Just think about it, Dont you guys already get junk emails and marketing calls. Are you guys not getting mails about Credit Card offers, Macys and Others. So Dont think too much guys. You always have the option of changing the phone number if things get worse. But I dont think that is gonna happen since most of our information are already out there. We will try to work out something with the Admins here to see if we can get a secured page. If not, let one of us take a responsibility of collecting personal information and host a webpage, I know, atleast , one of us can do it.
Lawyer Fees
Guys, Lawyer fees is not an issue, if we get more people in to this. 100 $ ain't too much when you think , you are spending 1000 $ on EAD and AP year after year. Let us shake the USCIS by taking some courageous step. Again, we are not here crossing borders, they invited us here. Every one of us deserve justice and respect. They cant treat us like slaves. They gotto keep up to their promises or else we will demand it.
Letters to Every one
Our focus should be to get maximum support. Let us send the Letter that we agreed upon, first to, the people from whom,we think, we would get maximum support. Let us keep them aware of what we are trying to achieve. Yes, Iam talking about the list of forture 500 Companies and IT giants, who were trying to push for an increase in H1B quota. Companies that are demading for a better Immigarion system and faster green cards. I know, we already have a thread that has a link to the letter that is signed by all big companies in favor of increasing High-Skilled immigrants. Let us make them hear. Let us, all 70 K folks here, send individual letters to every body who,we think, will support us and then to send it to those, who already knows everything about their inefficiencies,but still falling deaf, on our earlier outcry. Let us prove that, we dont just sit out there crying. Let us show them who we really are. Stand for our Self-Respect guys.
Lawyers
First we will send them the letter in the next 2-3 weeks. I agree, Iam not saying here, that we are gonna see the result just easy. But atleast, let us see, if our efforts are getting heard across the country. If not, Let us get to our next step. Find a Lawyer, who has complete knowledge about the immigration system. I have an idea here, let us approach some one like, Zoe Lofren. I dont think, she is fighting so much for our case, without enough support from the lawyers, who already know much about what is going on here with CIS. Let us see, if she has a personal say on our "Big Step" here.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST
Guys, If some one wants to discourage us or post anything other than words of caution or advise. Please refrain from doing that. We want people to stay positive and throw more positive energy to this thread.
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test101
07-06 11:16 PM
I like the CD idea very much. Ithink it will attrack attention. Have not heared money people doing it for the purpose of protest.
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pd_may_2007
07-20 07:35 AM
Count me in for $100
akhilmahajan
02-09 12:56 PM
Grand Total - $153
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
gsc999
07-08 05:40 PM
Hi,
I have thrown a challenge to IV DC chapter about who will get a bigger gathering on 07/14, San Jose or D.C.
Our Chinese friends are also posting this at Chinese grocery store, on websites and also at local news forums.
I need volunteers in bay area! Please send me a PM with your e-mail address, if possible phone numbers and a good time to contact so that we can spread the word in Bay area. I already have one volunteer need more.
I have thrown a challenge to IV DC chapter about who will get a bigger gathering on 07/14, San Jose or D.C.
Our Chinese friends are also posting this at Chinese grocery store, on websites and also at local news forums.
I need volunteers in bay area! Please send me a PM with your e-mail address, if possible phone numbers and a good time to contact so that we can spread the word in Bay area. I already have one volunteer need more.
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